Besides mod logs, is there a better way for the Fediverse to keep track of malicious actors, such as Kiwi farms members, Nazi apologists, and genocide deniers?

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It’s best to look out for their tactics rather than individuals. Nothing stops someone from making a new account once they get known to be a KF or /pol/ troll.

The voyger mobile app allows you to tag users and see how many times you've upvoted abd downvoted them. If you have an idea you can suggest it as a feature on github. Outside of that you can only really block and report if their behaviour breaks the rules.

At the moment its up to the community at the moment to weed out those kinds of people.

I think PieFed gives reputation warning icons for entities it thinks are statistically bad actors.

And Admiral Patrick on the instance dubvee.org, but it is regional for the state of West Virginia in the USA (tho he might be willing to share his blocked list?).

statistically bad actors.

Downvote bots gonna love this one lol

Kiwi farms?

Kiwi Farms, is a web forum that facilitates the discussion and harassment of online figures and communities. Their targets are often subject to organized group trolling and stalking, as well as doxing and real-life harassment. Kiwi Farms has been tied to the suicides of three people who were victims of harassment by the website.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms

From urban dictionary:

A website full of cynics who yearn for the approval of those around them, and anonymously harrass people online for not conforming to their community's beliefs, which they themselves have religiously adopted.

"Boy ol' gosh golly, I sure do love going onto Kiwi Farms and laughing at autists and liberals!"

The fediverse is somewhat inherently a low-trust environment. Centralized social media (including traditional web forums) has only one database of users, so its administrators are able to keep track of similarities (in geolocation, email addresses, style even of deleted posts, etc.). Here every instance has its own database of users; if you register on another instance, it will be very difficult for anyone to figure out you're the same person.

The fediverse is also still obscure enough that mostly it's still a relatively high-quality place and this has mostly not been a real problem. You should join an instance, and communities, that moderate to give you an enjoyable experience. What that means varies according to person; I don't mind the things you list very much, but am very glad I have not gotten any messages from fediverse chick Nicole in a while by now.

I think maintaining mirrors and archives are important. It would be preferable to work with site admins but no one technically needs permission to web scrape so long as you do it respectfully and without causing service interruptions.

Mod logs aren‘t necessarily a good tool to keep track of bad actors either because you don‘t know the mods. I think someone would have to have a lot of entries from several communities for me to even raise an eyebrow. It‘s tough.

Prob a comm in the line of !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works , but expanded beyond just Tankies/Genocide deniers. Somewhere for people to post collected documentation, screenshots, modlog entries etc. and collaboration