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I looked for the video and came across a reddit thread about it. Here are two really funny comments:
Oh yeah that's why it didn't work
No true witch!
So, they're saying that the magic is real, but I can't just go to a crazy old crone's potions shop and purchase a curse on someone because that's not how it works? Well, that's disappointing.
Edit: "no true witch" = hilarious
Well, yeah. Didn’t you see that documentary The Craft? There’s also that really old documentary about life in like 15th century New England about that family that gets cursed by the witch and then the daughter joins a coven. They have footage of her flying. I think it was called The VVitch.
It's a take on the logical fallacy: No True Scotsman
Honestly though, it does point out how stupid rage-baiting is. This guy genuinely thinks that they must care about his opinion and when they ignore him for being a weird little tit he spends a whole lot of effort to try to say that that’s proof that their thing isn’t real. For one it’s trying to prove a negative, and two it’s just such a weird, self-absorbed thing to do.
Chasing hate from others is such a weird thing to do. I don’t think magic is real but I’d still rather be friends with some random person who thinks it is than be anywhere near this fuckin’ douchebag.
I'm not defending the guy here (he does seem like a douchebag) but I think I'd rather hang out with a skeptic than someone dumb enough to believe crystals have healing energies.
Plus, the videos exist because the witches didn't ignore him. No shortage of magic-believers in the replies.
None of this is newsworthy but I'm cringing harder at the angry replies than the fact that he's rage baiting
In the absence of any other information at all, sure I guess I agree, but like basically anything else is more important than this, like being a caring person, being fun to talk to, etc.
You're right but I was just using the criteria they were to decide
Reminder that there used to be a $1,000,000 prize available for anyone who could display any sort of supernatural powers that remained unclaimed for 20 years. The challenge rules required that both parties agree upon the test setup, and several people actually tried to claim it and all failed. It astounds me that anyone still believes in this nonsense and that it seems to be becoming even more popular to believe in literal magic and other supernatural idiocy.
Everyone should read about James Randi he was a brilliant skeptic.
And he did special effects for Alice Cooper!
Also friend of Penn and Teller. Just a great guy all around.
I have an interesting opinion on this. If someone displays "supernatural powers", then those powers are not supernatural--just unknown. Therefore, it is an impossible prize to claim.
If you read the article, the rules were only that both parties have to agree on a test and if someone passed the test they won the prize. There wasn't a "gotcha" clause like "Oh since you did it it's clearly allowed by physics and we don't have to pay up!" So like if someone showed they had psychic powers sufficient to pass an agreed upon test it doesn't matter if there's a natural explanation for it, they would have still won the prize.
Well, in seriousness, and more interestingly, I'm not really willing to call supernatural powers real or fake, currently. There exist some stories I've come across, which are likely real, which contain absolutely unexplainable phenomenon. Just this morning, someone in a Discord I'm in (who wouldn't just fake stories) was explaining how someone they knew had a psychotic break on psychedelics, and, in the ambulance, narrated the paramedics' childhoods with disturbing accuracy. A trusted moderator of that space responded to my skepticism with "psychics absolutely exist, but the vast majority are just grifters".
Note: Without getting into all the context, this moderator is not the kind of person to simply believe in conspiracy theories.
I used to be a Reddit atheist (ew), and I've gone from thinking I know everything, to being very serious about accepting different views--no matter how absurd. We're unaware of so many more things than we're aware of.
I'm of the opinion that if psychic abilities exist, they can not be on command. They might. They might not. I would rather be honest than claim to be factual--I don't know.
I think it’s entirely possible this person is being honest while also just not having a firm grasp over what actually happened, due to having a psychotic break from psychedelics. The paramedic simply agreeing to whatever they said (if the conversation did happen—I’ve been unsure whether a conversation I thought I had was real or not just from smoking too much weed) could have been interpreted as much deeper and more profound than it was.
None of this requires ill intent. The mind is just incredibly bad at making and retrieving memories in the way we want (infallible, like a video) even when you aren’t on drugs.
Most of that is just mentalism, which is effective and useful but works off a psychological and stochastic approach but is absolutely explainable and not supernatural despite its applications in manipulating people. See: Jacob Wysocki in the one year later episode of game changer
I mean no one even managed to display "unknown" powers either.
They were all explainable
There’s a term for this idea, “preternatural”. It means a phenomenon that is the result of the natural world, not magic or divine, but still unexplainable with our current understanding.
James Randi’s prize didn’t require proof of the supernatural, it was open to preternatural phenomena as well. Someone just had to prove it was a REAL phenomenon and not a hoax or random chance.
The witch subculture is on the same level as kids who start channeling their chi to kamehameha a bully
That's not true, the kids will figure out they're cosplaying eventually.
LIGHTNING BOLT
Do it again, but with the magical powers of theism instead of witchcraft.
Pfft. They have had that covered for centuries.
"The Lord works in mysterious ways..."
Could one not say "witches work in mysterious ways"?
Magic works in mysterious ways.
Thry work in witchy ways.
Coulda, woulda, shoulda...
I know there's at least one dead fireman that proves god protected Trump or so I'm told.
Classic theurgy vs thaumaturgy
This is just a high effort version of "...Then may God strike me dead!" but targeting a spiritual minority instead if the hegemonic national religion. Shouldn't the amount of un-smited politicians indicate that there is no God?
it's a risky thing to do,
the vast majority of cases, you'll be right. but no one will care.
however, in the unlikely event where you suffer a immediate tragedy, like trip and break your nose, stroke, bird shits on you. you might start a new religion
Yeah, I got taken in like this for a while.
I grew up religious and one time prayed for a friend who was going to go though a couple of surgeries and would have to eat through a straw for a few months. I prayed that I could take some of the pain for him if needed. Turned out that I had a small accident and got my first stitches the next day and my friend was able to avoid additional months of recovery because the surgeon was able to do both operations at once. I took that as a sign that my prayer had worked and believed more strongly in God. For a while until I realized that coincidences can happen and that believing in God is pretty stupid.
And squander your magical talents for substitutional atonement??
Strangely enough, I could never get it to work again. Must've been my fault though, not God's.
Shouldn't the amount of any un-smited politicians prove any spiritual group that claims to have the ability to harm people wrong? I mean why are witches so mad that they can't hurt a random guy?
I can only actually name one politician that was smited
There's this one Turkish politician that got smited right after he said that Allah will judge Israel
https://youtu.be/B17R9vBOwlQ
I mean I'd say I don't believe in witchcraft but I wouldn't take on this challenge, so I guess I do believe in witchcraft
Do I want a bunch of maladjusted internet weirdos to have a personal stake in my life going wrong? Do I fuck.
I'm not worried about Miss Cleo spoiling my aura, I'm worried about Charles le Sorcier finding my house.
Mark Twain said he didn't believe in ghosts, but they scare the hell out of him.
Witch casts fireball via an amulett (molotov)
"I'm not superstitious, but I am a little stitious."
This man is a true servant of The Emperor, the touch of Chaos must be resisted at all costs.
You know about Chaos? Time to exterminatus the planet to make sure this forbidden knowledge doesn't spread.
Reminds me of this classic: https://old.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/hvy31q/witchcraft_hexing_the_moon/
I'll be that a witch told him to do this.
A gag like this discourages the amateurs and helps the real ones stay under cover.
the "real ones" lol
The guy isn't getting sick, which proves my point!
no it definitely does not lmao
You actually took what I said seriously?
Now I'm the one who is laughing.
As I've discovered, sarcasm tags seem to be almost required in certain cases here on Lemmy lol
Check his next comment to me.
bro just says something braindead and then goes "haha just joking" lmao
"I was only pretending to be stupid haha"
good one!
Witches are chill. Wizards are fucking nerds tho.
Update: doctor says I have a nasty torsion. Pray for me fellas.