PieFed chez MarudCan Tesla's Self-Driving Software Handle Bus-Only Lanes? Not Reliably, No.
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It's not hard to find videos of self-driving Teslas wilding in bus lanes. Check the videos out, then consider:
"There was an interesting side-note in Tesla’s last earnings call, where they explained the main challenge of releasing Full-Self Driving (supervised!) in China was a quirk of Chinese roads: the bus-only lanes.
Well, jeez, we have bus-only lanes here in Chicago, too. Like many other American metropolises… including Austin TX, where Tesla plans to rollout unsupervised autonomous vehicles in a matter of weeks..."
It's one of those regional differences to driving that make a generalizable self-driving platform an exceedingly tough technical nut to crack... unless you're willing to just plain ignore the local rules.
It can't stop when running directly at a wall but you expect it to handle special lanes?
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Is the taste of shoe leather getting any better?
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I'm not kink shaming, but do you have a humiliation fetish? Everywhere you comment you get dragged, and yet you are one of the most prolific commentators on this site.
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Fuck me man over 800 comments in less than a month?
Just put the phone down and go get some air
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Well thank god we have you do be productive and on topic. Clearly doing a service to the world, and totally not just shit posting out of boredom.
FSD wouldn't have done any better, it can't even figure out shadows on the road properly as seen in this crash 3 days ago:
https://fuelarc.com/tech/tesla-full-self-driving-veers-off-road-hits-tree-and-flips-car-for-no-obvious-reason-no-serious-injuries-but-scary/
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Did you watch the video? There's no way that it was just "user error", nobody randomly swerves into a tree when nothing's there.
Maybe you're implying it was insurance fraud?
Tesla gives out beta access to users, so I wouldn't put too much weight on that claimed version they were using.
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Where are you getting February from?
As far as I know this happened last week. I don't blame the person not wanting to reveal their face.
It switched autopilot off when the parking sensors (ultrasonic/radar range finder with a very narrow range) detected the wall.
If Tesla isn’t doing that to hide deficiencies from NHTSA investigations, I’ll eat my shoe.
Also FSD is an app running on the same hardware and camera systems as autopilot, what would make it better at “seeing” through mist or a reasonable facsimile of the road up ahead?
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From NHTSA IN 2022:
—https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/inv/2022/INOA-EA22002-3184.PDF
How else with they suddenly know to hit brakes and stitch off ~1 seconds before impact? Coincidence, or negligent coding?
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He didn't use FSD because he was on a track and FSD requires a destination. It was using Autopilot, according to his statement. Are you suggesting that Autopilot is inherently less safe than FSD? I'm confused about your position on this.
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I genuinely don't understand what FSD has to do with any of it. My car's front collision sensor works regardless of whether cruise control is enabled.
If I'm understanding your argument correctly, the driver needs to enable a setting first for a Tesla not to plow directly into a wall? I would say that makes it less safe.
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Volkswagen Group vehicle.
My car's AEBS will apply braking, shake the steering wheel, sound a loud alarm and flash the dashboard. I can't say for sure if it applies full braking, or if that only applies at lower speeds.
Perhaps I've not described the system accurately, because I'm not referring to parking sensors. My car's owner's manual states that AEBS works at speeds up to 220 km/h, and I've personally experienced it trigger while going over 120 km/h.
My take on Rober's video is simply that Tesla's automated driver safety systems are sub-par compared to other manufacturers. Perhaps somebody could perform another test with FSD enabled, but I personally don't think it's safe to require a driver to first enable a specific mode in order to avoid an accident—then they might as well just press the brakes themselves.
„Not reliably, no“ sums up Tesla pretty well.
Teslas ai is based off of its drivers in crowdsourced data, they are assholes who break the law. Yesla "self driving" will NEVER be safe.
Rest of the worlds solution: remove Tesla
American solution : remove bus lanes
It's actually extremely straightforward to mark lanes as "bus-only" when you map out roads, but that's assuming you're not being micromanaged by a moronic egomaniac.
Yeah... until they change. And municipalities are not known for thoroughly documenting their changes, nor companies keeping their info up to date even if those changes are provided.
Sooooo .... You people don't have signs? Because my car can read those.
If the road is marked as bus only, surely it’s still bus only? That’s how it works here at least, road signs etc. are applicable until removed. Doesn’t matter if it’s still there because government forgot to remove something. You obey the signs because they keep the roads safe.
There, fixed it for ya.
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You may not have much experience with autopilots, so no. There are different levels of autopilots in aviation, not just the full control with auto-land you may be thinking of. I used to fly a small prop plane with single axis autopilot. much less capable than Tesla full self-driving. However it was safe and useful because I understood its capabilities and limitations. I knew what to use it for and what not, so even an extremely simple analog autopilot successfully reduced pilot workload, improving safety
Ok. But they're talking about Tesla fsd ai.
It would have killed you.
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It would also have killed you in one of their cars probably
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At least 54 https://www.tesladeaths.com/
Tesla's don't have self driving software.
Stop calling things names that don't reflect reality. A Tesla couldn't get itself out of a parking lot, let alone drive itself across the US, despite all the lies that Elmo has been telling
I wouldn't set foot on anything associated with musk after he sold out the country to the Russians to enrich himself m. The man could not spend his money in. A million lifetimes and what does he do to us? Grabs more.
First video was from somewhere around Toronto, Canada (my guess is Mississauga). Some places have very unclear signage of when bus lanes are active, when they're not, disappearing in and out of existence sometimes, but that was a clear red lane that combined with lane data the Tesla's camera based navigation system should have been equipped enough to handle it...
Sucks for the driver letting Tesla net him a fine and demerit points.
Nah, they are also responsible for not correcting the situation whan the defective self driving feature put them in a bus lane. Same as if they let their cruise control rear end another car.
I agree with you that often the signage/lane marking suck and it takes a bit to figure it out. But me as a human, I’ll remember the next time I travel that route. The Tesla continues to have zero prior knowledge every time.
oh hello betterridge's law of headlines
"Can Kay Write a Decent Headline?"
yes as it turns out!
Oh thank you :D